After my level II hypnotherapy studies at the HCH Institute, my classmate Kathy Trost kindly offered to do a soul retrieval process for me outside the class. Alex Heintz, another classmate, worked with us during the class process, and that is why decided to join us for this additional session.

Below is the transcript of what followed.

My question for the session was: "why do I feel stuck, feel "sentenced" to life? Why cannot I find love and abundance even after so many years of inner work?" Kathy opted to do a regression to explore the stuckness. What we've found is that I shut down the joyous self, full of creativity and expression. The regression helped me find and reintegrate this part of self. Kathy did a masterful job guiding me through a past life and then an age regression to reconnect me with the part that is in charge of connecting with the love and abundance within. After the session Kathy suggested a wonderful book, scroll down for the link.

This transcript might be helpful for all students of hypnotherapy, and all those curious about what the regression process is like. Enjoy!

Induction
Kathy:
I am going to open the sacred space for this regression. We'll call in our higher selves call in our guides and our guardian angels, and we create a sacred space above and below. And I asked that I may be a perfect and clear channel for your regression today. And so I'm going to ask you Elena to just take some nice, slow, deep breaths. And I'm going to count slowly from one to five.

I want you to allow your eyes to close as I count to five, just naturally, when you're ready.

Continue to breathe slowly in and out. Let go with each exhalation. When they each breath, you just relax and relax and become more present in this moment.

Nice and slow, nice and slow.

Deepening
Color red: [Kathy was not announcing the colors, those markings are for the reader's benefit]
Breathe into areas of your body, where you feel like you need more relaxing. And as you move into this state, I want you to feel your connection to your higher self. It feels safe to turn over this experience to her. Trust that they know how to guide you towards your healing and that you're safe. So continue to breathe fully and slowly and imagine the color red. Red like a bright crisp apple. Maybe it's a favorite scarf or a piece of clothing. Feel and see the color red. As you breathe into the base of your skull. Fill your body with a vibration of red. It's grounding. It's connection to mother earth.

Color orange:
Now imagine the color orange like the beautiful skin of an orange, Right? Persimmon. Imagine the autumn trees outside right now. Feel the orange color right at your sacral chakra. This is the color of creativity, procreation and sensuality. Just breathe that color into your sacral chakra.


Color yellow:
As you continue to relax and let go. Imagine the color yellow of the sun. Feel it's warmth as it moves into your solar plexus. This is the seat of your personal power. The center through which you empower others, your center of self love. Fill it with thoughts and feelings and vibrations of yellow. Just continue to expand and balance in this moment.

Color green:
And now imagine the color green as you focus on your chest area. See and feel the freshness of the new leaves in spring. Notice the newly mowed lawn, perhaps the smell of the grass, just breathe. This color green goes into your heart. It starts to feel and heal with new beginnings of green. Just slowly deepen into the color green.

Color blue:
Now I want you to imagine the color blue, just feel it arrive at your throat chakra and just breathe it in like deep, clear blue water. Focus on your and the communication. Your self-expression is free. This color blue is like the sky balancing and relaxing. You're going deeper still.

Color purple:
And now you're going to imagine the color purple right at your third eye. Allow this color to move into your third eye. Wisdom to seeing things with the new perspective, your connection to the divine. Just soften and deepen with your next breath.

Color white:
Now imagine a white light at your crown chakra. It's cleansing and healing light. Breathe into the white light balancing and connecting your soul awareness and your greater knowing to your higher self.

Just feel all of these colors within you merging together.

Now as you take your next deep breath, imagine these colors swirling in front of you and forming a path. It's a rainbow path. You start to take your first step upon the path. First one step, and then another - all of your senses come alive.

Past life regression
And that as you move over, I want you to look down, notice your feet. As you emerge into this life. What's your stature like, are your feet big or small? Are you barefoot or shoes? Notice what you're wearing, what it feels like to be in this body when you're ready. Describe for me what you're experiencing.

Elena:
I see woman's feet, a young girls feet. She is barefoot. She is dressed in burlap sack kind of outfit. It's rough and fringy around the edges, goes almost all the way to her feet.

Kathy:
How does it feel like to be in this body? What is the experience of being in this body?

Elena:
It feels curious and excited. Like only a child can be. She's more like a teenager, but she feels like a kid.

Kathy:
So now I want you to become aware of your surroundings. Where are you?

Elena:
There's an open field, but there's a castle somewhere nearby also. There are huts next to the castle.

Kathy:
And is one of those your home?

Elena: Yes.

Kathy:
Would you like to move into whichever one is your home?

Elena:
Yes.

Kathy:
Okay. I'm going to count to three and you can move into your home: one, two and three. So just take a moment and describe what your home is like?

Elena:
It's one room and there are also animals in this room. Like it's not just humans.

Kathy:
What kind of animals are they significant?

Elena:
There is a goat, like a cattle kind of animals.

Kathy:
Are there any other people in there that you have relationships with?

Elena:
Yes. I see my mother, don't see my father, but I see my siblings.

Kathy:
And what are they are all doing?

Elena:
They are doing their stuff. Somebody's crying, somebody's fighting. Mom is holding a baby. She is trying to make it sleep. The baby is still hungry, so it's crying.

Kathy:
And what is your purpose in this family? What is your purpose for being here?

Elena:
I want to say I'm the oldest, not definitively, but it feels like I'm an adult. I am helping around. Life is kind of a survival struggle. So I don't help to live, but help to survive. It's a constant struggle.

Kathy:
Where do you spend most of your waking time in this life? What are your days filled with?

Elena:
I have to run chores. That's my sort of function, but I spend most of my time in my imagination.

Kathy:
And what are your skills, your gifts and your abilities that you focus on these days?

Elena:
Joy.

I'm able to find joy in this misery. I look at life through the pink glasses.

For example, this hut is stinky from the animal manure. And it's dirty. But to me it kind of looks like a magic place, the manure is like mountains on the magical terrain in a magical kingdom. I see everything like it is magic.

Kathy:
And do you share this with your family? So one of your roles is to create joy for your family or is it just for you?

Elena:
They don't seem to be interested in joy. But maybe I create it for them anyway. I don't know.

Kathy:
So now I want you to think about somebody who's the most significant person to you in this life. Let's find out who this person is in relationship to you. So go ahead and experience being with this person now,

Elena:
It's my father.

Kathy:
And how do you feel towards him?

Elena:
I love him.

Kathy:
How does he feel toward you?

Elena:
He's not lovey-dovey, he doesn't say much, but I think he loves me too.

We shared something. It's the appreciation for magic of the world around us. He is able to see it too, and he knows that I see it.

I see myself giving him something like an amulet. It's a small round thingy that I found, and I don't know what it is, but it's amazing. I found it in the forest, maybe it belonged to a knight. It's some sort of a badge perhaps. Maybe it's a symbol of a sun. Whatever it is, it's my treasure.

I show it to my dad, put it in front of him. I know that he knows that it's my treasure. So it's that kind of bond. He gets me, he knows the kind of world I'm living in.

Kathy:
What is the significance of your father and you in that moment? What is the significance of that moment of you giving him your most treasured gift? What is the significance of that for the two of you?

Elena:
That we both know about that secret magical world.

Kathy:
And so does that affect your life circumstances and your relationship with your dad once that happens? Or is there a more significant event that occurs between you and your father?

Elena:
He dies.

Kathy:
Were you with him when he died?

Elena:
No.

Kathy:
What were the circumstances of his death?

Elena:
He died in the field. Maybe it was like a heart attack.

Kathy:
And how was he discovered?

Elena:
By other people.

Kathy:
How did you hear this news?

Elena:
From those people.

Kathy:
And how did that impact your life?

Elena:
It's like the sun was shut down, it became dark. It took out the light in me.

Kathy:
Did your responsibilities change or your, your way of living in your home? What changed after this?

Elena:
It became more chores and we struggled even more.

Kathy:
I'm going to count to three. And when I count to three, I want you to move to an experience in your past life that's impacting this life. One, two, three.

Elena:
It's this disillusionment, after his death. It took the magic out of my life, because I felt that the magic existed because it was shared with him.

I felt it [the magic], but I also knew that he felt it, and it gave me the permission, validated my experience. So when he died, I felt like the magic died because I could not share it with anybody. The only person thanks to whom it existed was gone. It's like two beacons reflecting light for each other. Also I felt disappointed in magic, because if magic existed, he would have not died.

Kathy:
So now I want you to think about, you can meet either move forward and backward in time, but I want you to think about a significant event in, in this past life that could have happened either socially, politically, and environmentally, that impacts your current life.

Elena:
It is losing my father. After that I went into darkness.

Kathy:
So in the next few minutes I want you to experience anything else about this past life that was significant to you and you call in your higher self and allow her to guide you through your experience so that you can become aware of the situation.

Elena:
I also see myself getting raped.

Kathy:
What were the circumstances around that?

Elena:
I can't describe the circumstances. I just see myself getting raped. A man caught me, literally caught me and raped me. He also beat me up. I feel bruises on my face. And there's nobody to help me.

Kathy:
How does this affect you in your past life? After this event?

Elena:
It finished the destruction of joy and this "pink glass magic world" that I lived in before. I became disillusioned.

Kathy:
I'm going to have you moved to your death experience in this life. I'm going to count to three. You just move into this death experience. One, two and three. What is the circumstance of this stuff?

Elena:
I wasn't very old, but I looked old.

Kathy:
How old were you?

Elena:
I want to say 45.

Kathy:
And what was the cause of your death?

Elena:
It's some kind of sickness or infirmity, But, emotionally I died a long time ago. It was just a mechanical part of me that was doing the living. I became a replica of my mother. I had a household and I was doing the surviving.

Kathy:
Who was with you when you passed away? If anybody?

Elena:
They were people, my children, my grandchildren and the goats. But, I feel removed from them.

Kathy:
And what did you experience in the moment of death?

Elena:
I've been waiting for it for a long time.

Kathy:
And so what happened after you passed away? What did you experience next? Just move to that state of consciousness. That's between your lives.

Life between lives
Elena:
The heartache is disappearing. It's fading.

Kathy:
And what else are you experiencing?

Elena:
Relief.

Kathy:
You have access to all knowing soul awareness, you are able to experience an overview of this past life you just lived. Okay. In what ways is it similar to your current life?

Elena:
I also lost the magic in this life. I did not realize that the source of the magic world was inside me, not outside.

I didn't give myself credit for being the source of it, the generator of the joy magic if you will. I did not realize that I am enough for this magical world to exist. I remained blind to the simple truth that I am enough. I am enough for this magic world to continue exist, whatever the external circumstance.

Kathy:
So how has this past life connected to your current life? Your question about why can't you find love and abundance?

Elena:
Love and abundance cannot be found. It can only be accessed within.

Cutting it off, turning off "the fountain" of love and abundance within leads to darkness inside and outside. That inner joy is the source of love and abundance.

Kathy:
Let's ask what was the main purpose or lesson in your past life that relates to your current life?

Elena:
You were enough. You are enough.

Kathy:
Is there anything else? Is there any part of that past life that seems unfinished?

Elena:
Yes. The light was taken out. This girl took out her own light.

Kathy:
So I want you to look at your father who you said was the most significant part of your past life and let his soul Really feel that connection. And is there somebody in your current life, do you recognize that person as somebody in your current life now that's soul.

Elena:
It's my father.

Kathy:
And in what ways was the relationship similar?

Elena:
He was my teacher.

On the surface it doesn't look similar whatsoever, but on the deeper level he also tried to teach me the lesson of love.

In that past life a more harmonious way to live that life would have been if I continued the magic, if I found enough light in me to continue see the world through the pink glasses. Instead of stopping the light. I turned the light off.

Kathy:
What agreements did you have between you and your father as you moved to this current life? What were your agreements in being here together and what you would bring to each other?

Elena:
He teaches me that I am enough. And I teach him unconditional love.

Kathy:
And if your current life self could say something to your past life self, what would it be?

Elena:
To this girl who turned off the magic? I would tell her that she should keep the magic going and the joy going, that she can keep it going within herself. She is a universe in herself, she is self-sufficient.

Seeing the magic and living that magic would be honoring her father. So not only is it not a reason to shut it off, but it's the way to honor him, to keep this magic going. And then maybe at some point there will be another person who can become that reflector, the other beacon.

Kathy:
And now ask her, what message does she have for you in this life?

Elena:
Everything is magical. Joy is everywhere. Whatever I do, however incomplete or insufficient it feels, is enough. Whenever it feels like I'm blowing on the ocean, i.e. getting nothing done or making no progress, I should know that I am [making progress]. Whatever I am doing is enough.

Kathy:
And so as you look into your current life from after reviewing this past life, where would you say you are on your soul's journey for these lessons?

Elena:
78% done.

Kathy:
What else do you need to know to progress further down this path?

Elena:
That I am love, I am light. I am enough.

Kathy:
So the message is that you are enough. So in this state, that's beyond time and physical space you have access to these wise guides of light that can assist you in healing the past, and they can empower you in your current life. So just take a few minutes to meet with any of these wise beings who can bring their skills and knowledge to you. Take a nice, slow, deep breath and be in their presence. Focus on seeing and feeling this healing that's taking place.

Ask your guides to help you with healing and moving into the next steps.

Elena:
They had given me a gift, several gifts. They are encouraging me, supporting me, saying that I am doing great.

Soul retrieval:

Kathy:
Take a nice, slow, deep breath. Let's do a soul retrieval from the age where you still had joy and magic.

Elena:
The girl was 11 years old when her father died and that's when she lost her light.

Kathy:
What age comes to mind that you can remember when you still had joy [in this life]? Was there a time in this life that you can remember?

Elena:
Five years old.

Soul retrieval
Kathy:
So let's go back to when, before you were five, when you still had all this joy and magical experiences full of life and love and open to abundance.

Elena:
Everything seemed like magic. Joy was absolute, and everything gave me joy. I felt constant expansion. I felt infinite. I wanted to sing. I wanted to dance. I wanted to read poetry. I wanted to tell stories. I wanted to hear fairy tales. I wanted to perform.

Kathy:
Take a nice, slow, deep breath. And I want you to envision this little girl at five years old. Take a look at her. What is she doing? What does she look like? What's the expression on her face? What is she wearing.

Elena:
She is wearing nothing special.

Kathy:
And what is she doing?

Elena:
She's on the stage. She's performing at a concert in the summer camp. She wants to perform all the time. They cannot get rid of her. She's done over a dozen acts, and she has more. She sang several songs, danced multiple dances, read poems, did a skit, told jokes, but she still wants to do more.

Kathy:
So you're watching her, you're there. Does she see you?

Elena:
She's too busy performing. She's hundred percent in that moment of singing and dancing and reciting poetry.

Kathy:
When you feel that energy of her full of her life and presence, and the joy of that moment up on stage. Where do you feel that in your body?

Elena:
In my chest.

Kathy:
And so imagine the play is over now and you get to greet her as joyous, little you. What do you want to say to her?

Elena:
I want to say to her "you were perfect". You are exactly like your idol, Alla Pugacheva (editor note: a Soviet pop star).

Kathy:
You're ready for her to come home now to you. What do you want to tell her about that? She doesn't know how you've been living your life. What do you want to tell her about your life and that how safe she'll be with you now? Like the kind of fun you have, what do you want to tell her?

Elena:
My life sucks in terms of fun hah.

Kathy:
She doesn't know how much work you've been doing and your hypnotherapy classes and how brave you are and you moved to New York and you've traveled the world. I think she would have loved all of that. Why don't you tell her about some of the adventures you've been on?

Elena:
Her eyes go wide. She thinks it's awesome.

Kathy:
And do you think she would like to go to the park with you?

Elena:
Yes. She'll make my cat take a nap, pretend that a cat is a human baby, and she would make it take a nap at a certain hour, covered in blankets in a certain sleeping position.

Kathy:
If she comes home to you now, what do you want to tell her? How are you going to take care of her?

Elena:
Attention. She wants full attention. She wants me to say nice things and clap for her. And announce her whenever she wants to perform. Also I have to buy her dresses. And, hold her hand. Skip, sing, and run together.

Kathy:
She wants to be really connected to you. So can you tell her that you can do all of those things? Go ahead and let her know. Let's see how she responds to that.

Kathy:
Will you ask her, she'll come back to you now and you can tell her all the promises you're going to keep and how you're going to take care of her and tell her what your new life together will be like in your apartment, in New York.

Then when you're ready, go ahead and put your hand up for her. Just feel that emotion in your heart, where you described this feeling you felt when you looked at her and all her joy, her bright light, and her abundance.

What are you experiencing right now?

Elena:
I see what made her light go off. I see that it was music school. Before the music school she did not know whether she was talented or not. That was not important. She just enjoyed performing. She enjoyed singing, reading, poetry, dancing, but then at the music school they started to judge her.

Kathy:
So what can you tell her about how you're gonna take care of her so that she doesn't feel judged?

She's saying I'll come home, but no judgement. I just want to have fun. This is about us living our lives. So can you just love me? Cause I want to have fun. I don't care what anybody else thinks.

Elena:
Yeah. No judgment.

Kathy:
So when you reach your hand out, does she come to you now?

Elena:
Yeah, she came into my arms.

Kathy:
Okay. So just pick her up and hold her and just feel her. Where do you feel her emotionally in you? Is it still in your heart as it moves somewhere else in your body?

Elena:
It's in my heart and in my stomach.

Kathy:
Okay. So just bring her into your heart chakra, in your solar plexus, let her melt right into you with all that love you missed.

How are you going to take such good care of her? Just talk to her and let her just come right into you. Feel that energy filling you up. Take a minute to just have this process take place. Bringing her in, talking to her, letting her know she's safe and how happy you are to be with her again.

She needs your love and encouragement. She settles right in when you talk with her. So you just let me know when you feel like this process is complete. Take your time.

Elena:
[laughing] She thinks she's really good [at performing]. When she is performing, I see that her feet are turned in, she is performing with pigeon toes, it's hilarious.

Kathy:
You better let her know she is. So much joy already. Just feel that in your heart and your solar plexus. Yep. So good to have her back.

Take a nice, slow, deep breath.

I want you to settle into this feeling of her being part of you now. And I want you to take a nice, slow, deep breath with her presence.

Now, back within your soul, more complete, I want you to remember the lessons you've learned. Let them come into your consciousness from this journey when you're past life to this life. And I want you to feel the presence of this new part of you that's back again, your little girl, full of joy and light and magic and abundance.

Dehypnotising
And then we're going to count backwards from five to one. Before we do that, I want you to take a moment to thank any of your guides, your higher self for their presence and guidance on this journey.

Okay?

Now I'm going to count backwards from five to one. When I get to one, you can be back in the room and fully present five nice, slow, deep breath,

Be more aware of your surroundings and your apartment.

You can open your eyes when you're ready.
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After the session
Kathy:
I was honored to be able to share this process with you.

Alex:
I loved watching the process!

Elena:
Thank you. Thank you both for guiding and holding space for me. It was a first time I experienced a soul retrieval across lives.

Kathy:
Yeah. There's all different ways to do past lives, but I felt like you were in such a place to experience her yourself. And I think it's so powerful when you make that connection.

Elena:
Yeah, it was. And what an unexpected experience, right? This is not what I anticipated.

Kathy:
Yes. The magic of this work. Right. You never know where that was really beautiful.

Elena:
Kathy, I loved your deepeners. The first time all the chakra colors made sense to me hah.

Kathy:
Oh, good. Well, all of this is work from the hypnotherapy class [at HCH Institute]. I mean, I sometimes add little things here or there, but it's all material you're going to have [in the future levels] So I'm glad that that worked for you today.

Elena:
I could never remember the chakra colors for the life of me. And now they seem so harmonious and make such perfect sense. Every color.

Kathy:
Yeah. You need every color. Have you guys ever read the book, the Sophia code?

A really magical book. It's actually a live transmission from somebody by the name of Kaia Ra who was very abused, but escaped and went to Shasta, Mount Shasta in California and was downloaded by Sophia the consciousness.

I was thinking of you when I read your letter. So the first chakra, the red chakra is Isis. The second chakra is Hathor. And she actually is the goddess that really works with time, travel on these parallel lives and helps you move between them. The green is Tara, who's the goddess of self-love. Mary is your heart chakra. Mary Magdalen is your throat chakra. Kuan yin is compassion and water is your third eye chakra. And then white Buffalo woman, native American Indian is your crown chakra.

And as you go through each of these, um, you hear their history that was downloaded to her. And then the second part of each chapter, you go through an activation and it's a really great book. If you have an interest moving through those things, it's pretty powerful.

It's the only book that I've ever read that came alive.

Like when I was saying, I read the vowels out loud and I would make it a ceremony in itself, each chapter, and I do energy work and that energy still stays with me. Like you recognize the different energies and it's magical.

The book link: https://smile.amazon.com/Kaia-Ra/e/B01I4PVYR0?ref=dbs_t_r_fta_b01i4pvyr0